michy92, 22-6-2012 19:38:
I think it's because they were young but i dont know...
No, at that age they have the wingtriangle if it are collo Argento e+/e+.
Was told to me several Livorno Bianco have the gound-pattern ER/ER (Betulla) next to E/E (Extended Black) so maybe these ones originated from Whites.
Maybe Egidio can help to clear this ?