Altsteirer (in italiano Pollo di Altastiria)

Hello everybody here in the Italian Forum.
I am from Bavaria, between Munich and Regesburg and read (or translate a few interessting things from here.

But now I hope that somebody can help me.
Are there any types of the Alsteirer Breeds existing in Italy?

I have a few pictures for you:

Altsteirer in white




in wildbrown


both colours together


or some other colours lake sparrowed



Thanks a lot for your help if someone knews about this kind of breed in Italy.

Regards
from Bavaria
Drachenreiter

Ciao Dragolista (Drachenreiter)

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Ciao
Sarah

Hi Drachenreiter, I'm very happy to have you here, it's always a pleasure to exchange new breeding experiences..here in Italy I think it's a rare breed, you will get more useful information from our italian judge Fabrizio (fabri43)

Fabri tu sai se l'Altsteirer è allevata da qualcuno qua?

una curiosità: la razza di cui si stà parlando sarebbe quella che il nostro standard riporta con il nome di "vecchia stria"??
le colorazioni della vecchia stria sono appunto la bianca e la selvatica come quelle delle foto..

Ciao,

I try to do my best with a translating programm:

Ciao, ringraziamenti mólto. Avete immagini reali del della corsa "old Stria"

This are my fist young chicks this year:

White and blue ore sparrow


White, white with red and something special and a blue cockerel


This is one of my favourite young hens she is the beauty queen



Regards
DR

I also have to old drawings from a book of Armin Arbeiter, but i don´t knew if it is allowed to show it here. The pictures are from 1914 and one from 1894 where there are a few differences in the colours.

Ciao Drachenreiter!
I haven't seen in Italy the breed Altsteirer (Vecchia Stiria) from many many years.
It is a great pleasure for all of us to know that you visit often our forum. I am at your disposal for all I can do for you from here.
I visit every year the german National Show and I hope to see you there sometimes.
Congratulations for your Altsteiers.
All the best!
Zuechtergruesse!
Fabri

Ciao Babri,

it is a pitty that this nice breed wasn´t anymore in the northern area of italy. Because it is a very good kind of breed for this area, to search for forage, and so on...

I think you don´t see me on such a big show like the National in Ger. because if i take a few white and wildbrown to a breed show, I will only go to one ore two local shows in my nearest home region. All the others is tu much stress for my chickens.

But if you are going on your trip throug Bavaria you can visit me.

Regards
DR

Ciao Drachenreiter,
yes it is a pity I like them.
If I will come in Bavaria I promise to visit you.
Ciao
Fabri

This is my email: fabrizio.focardi@hotmail.it, please give me yours.
Ciao
Fabri

Ciao Drachenreiter,

Welcome to our forum!
Well, in Italy we had in the Veneto region a breed, now become extint, veri similar to the
Altsteirer but also with buttercup comb. she was the cappellona breed.

in a recent trip in Toscana region I've found this breed:

http://www.freeforumzone.leonardo.it/discussione.aspx?idd=7416980

it's really similar to the Altsteirer, but the eggs are white - I think the eggs of Altsteirer are light brown.

ciao!

PS Could you give me some indication on the history and origin of the beautiful Altsteirer breed?

Hi Drachenreiter, welcome in our website, Fabri,Andrea and others say all about this topic, i just would like to thank you to enjoy this forum.

all the best
Francesco

scusate c'e qualche italiano x caso??!!:-(

fabio80x, 07/06/2008 13.43:

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scusate c'e qualche italiano x caso??!!:-(

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Eccolo!
Ciao a tutti, (io scrivo in italiano perchè in inglese....)
Complimenti Drachenreiter e Complimenti per i tuoi polli, sono davvero molto simaptici e tenuti molto bene!
Ciao ciao
Igor

Hi,

the eggcolour is white to whiteivory
the eggs shoud have min. 55 gr. or more
the eggs are about 150 -180 each year

Regards
DR

And something about the history.

The roots of this breed are in the old chickens of the Sainted Roman Empire wich ended in 18.. and was a kind of the geran land chicken.

A rest of this populations was in the Steiermark (Now Austria and Slowenia) at the end of the Sainted Roman Empire. From this chickens there was a way to the lighter wildbrown type in the upper Steiermark (Austria) and to the a little bit heavier white type in the down Steiermark (Slowenia).

First notices was found about this type of breed in the 14 century.
Than in 1846 Professore Hlubek wrote in a newspaper about the egglayin in a year for round 100-160 per year and hatching natural at 12-15 egg a hen that 10 chickens ar coming.
From 1894 i have a copy of a old standart description with a picture.
From 1914 i have a reprint of a book from Armin Arbeiter "Handbuch der Nutzgeflügelzucht für Österreich und die Donauländer"

In this book there are more colour drawings, also one from the Palerova wich are well known in the Steiermark.

Ebbene ragazzi ora vi racconterò brevemente l'appassionata storia che ,ai tempi andati,intavolai con la Vecchia Stiria.Cinque anni or sono,ebbi ad innamorarmi perdutamente di questa meravigliosa gallinotta,di cui mi colpì anzitutto il vezzoso ciuffetto che le impreziosisce la graziosa testa(senza per altro renderla vulnerabile alla corizza in quanto è portato molto alto!),e d'altro canto,fui allettato dalla sua elevata attitudine alla deposizione,dal suo carattere rustico e frugale e non ultimo,dalla colorazione "selvatica".Convinto più che mai ad averla,riuscii a contattare un disponibile allevatore austriaco che gentilmente mi inviò una ventina di uova.A parte le traversie della spedizione,le uova alla fine arrivarono tutte intatte ed ebbero anche discreta fertilità.Ne tirai sù sei galline ed un gallo;purtroppo avvenne che quest'ultimo rimase ucciso in un combattimento(svoltosi a mia insaputa!),o per meglio dire, morì dissanguato poichè aveva avuto una profonda lacerazione della cresta.In breve le spose erano rimaste vedove,ed ovviamente non avevo avuto il tempo di farle riprodurre!Frattanto conobbi il Fabrizio nazional-popolare che praticamente "mi impose" (seppur in maniera velatamente indiretta!)l'allevamento di una razza italiana e così ho abbandonato la Vecchia Stiria di cui però,a tutt'oggi, mi sono rimaste tre galline.Posso dire che la femmina ha una forma del corpo molto morbida e una testa davvero accattivante;devo confessare che mi piace meno la testa del gallo,in particolare la cresta,spinta in avanti dal ciuffo,è piuttosto piccola e proprio non regge il confronto con la cresta della Livorno,Valdarno o Braekel,tanto per fare qualche esempio.In compenso però il maschio ha un bel colore e bella coda con falciformi molto ben arcuate.Posso riferire(almeno sulla base dei miei pochissimi animali,)che questa razza ha una certa predisposizione alla cova e che produce anche buona carne.Ma quello che colpisce è che sono delle gran bricconcelle disobbedienti ed assai libertine!Tenterò di postarvi qualche foto!

ciao Drachenreiter,five years agò,a kind and helpful Austrian breeder sent me some hatching eggs of Vecchia Stiria and at the end I succeeded in breeding one rooster and six hens.Unfortunately the cock was killed in a fight with another cock,so I was unable to continue the breeding of this race.Actually I have just three Vecchia Stiria hens,but in the meantime I decided to prefer an Italian breed.Congratulations for your nice poultry flock!

una delle mie galline Vecchia Stiria

altra mia gallina Vecchia Stiria

Hi Franco,

if you need eggs let it knew me, it`s poossible to sent you about 10-20 from the wildbrown type this week.

If you need a rooster this or next year maybe there can be organised something, but eggs are no problem. It is nice that the Styrian type is not away in Italy. Do knew from wich person you have the eggs at that time. I think there is also another people in Italy wich have that type. If you want I can sent you the adress.

Regards
DR

Ciao Drachenreiter thank you very much for yuor big availability to send me eggs;but for now I have concentrated my attention on our national race:Livorno.So unfortunately I haven't space to keep others chickens.If you want I can send you the Austrian breeder's e-mail address, but in private on your e-mail.

Hi everybody,

this happens each morning when about 60 young chickens went out.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wzh8K9GSVg

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zQYJpQ-zg8


because every brody wants to get the best place in the garden.

Regards
DR

Hi Drachenreiter, is a lot of fun this invasion of chicks ....
Congratulations are really many.
Ciao ciao
Igor

Hi Drachenreiter,

fantastic swarm of chicken, and many thanks for you informations on this beautiful breed. I'm writing an hystorical research about a very old italian crested breed, the Polverara, also know in past ad Paduan. I would ask to you something about your old books, could you help me? My email: info@oryctes.com.
many thanks!

Hi Andrea,

the email is not working.

I can make a photo of the sites from the book of Armin Arbeiter with a picture an the text.

If you want i can ask the man who have the book from 1894 if the Polverara are inside too.

Regards
DR

Please give me a email adress where I`m able to send the photos.

Hi Drachenreiter,

many thanks for your help! It's strange that the emailadress don't work. please, try again at this adress:
info@oryctes.com
or at tihis adress:
andreamangoni@tin.it
please, don't ask only for the polverara, but also for the padouan, 'cause in past they was frequently considered the same.

many many thans again!
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Hello,

after a long time (I was a little bit busy) i want to show you, what happens to my small Altsteirer chickens.

3 Cockerels became very nicw, and the first hen is starting laying eggs.

Cockerel in blue


in barred


in white






Greetings
from Bayern
DR

Hi, it is a very nice group.
They are very funny whit that little tuft.
I like very much the barred cockerel, very good.
Ciao ciao
Igor

Da gestern so herrliches Wetter war, ca. 20 Grad plus habe ich auch die Altsteirer noch abgelichtet.

this are a few pictures from yesterday afternoon in the garden, the Weather was so nice, 20 degrees as in summer but not usual for the November.







Regards from Bavaria
Erich

Hi Drachenreiter,

your specimens are alwais amazing! Also I, I just love the cuckoo rooster.
ciao!