Autosessabile (o crele)

Come si fa ad ottenere questa colorazione?
Nella mia ignoranza pensavo incrociando la colorazione sparviero con la collo oro...è giusto???

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This color contains e+/e+ B/B*B/- s+/s+*s+/-
This means partridge and sparviero on gold.

i don't think i understand, if i cross gold partridge with cuckoo i'll have crele chicks??

ciao Marco. ho dato un'occhiata al calcola polli. se incroci gallo sparviero(o barrato) con femmina collo oro ti nascono tutti sparviero. poi da F1XF1 avrai anche l'autossessata e+/e+ B/B*B/- s+/s+*s+/- ma anche l'autosessata argento e+/e+ B/B*B/- S/S*S/-

Thanks Alberto to have explain so good in Italiano (I still can't)

Light sparviero cock E/E B/B s+/s+ X e+/e+ s+/- Partidge hen
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dark sparviero cock E/e+ B/b+ s+/s+ and E/e+ B/- s+/- sparviero hen. Now you back cross this brother X sister (is F1 X F1)
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1/16 creole female = e+/e+ B/- s+/-
1/16 gold partridge female
3/16 sparviero female
3/16 black female
and
2/16 creole male = 1/16 e+/e+ B/B s+/s+ and 1/16 e+/e+ B/b+ s+/s+
6/16 sparviero male

Watch out this calculation is for double B/B s+/s+ cock and s+/- hen
when you cross opposit e+/e+ s+/s+ cock and B/- s+/- hen the outcome is completely different !!!
Also when the cock or hen have S/S*S/- instead of s+/s+*s/- it comes out different.
But to make your own calculations use the colorcalculator : kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html

Grazie mille ad entrambi :) thanks danny!
F1xF1 vorrebbe dire incrociare fr loro i figli nati in prima generazione?? cioè quelli sparviero nati da collo oroXsparviero? ahaha scusate le mille domande ma sn ignorante in materia e su internet nn ho trovato nulla su questa colorazione...

si F1=generazione figli.
dovrebbe esserci su summagallicana...ma il piu è trovarla eh eh eh

ah si? ok allora lo vado a cercare :D grazie mille...
Ho in mente un po di esperimenti eheh...sperando di trovare le bantam sparviero a reggio (c'erano a osnago ma purtroppo nn sn potuto andare)

Hey ragazzi you are so quick I can not follow :-)

Danny,What you did not understand?
oddio emm aiutatemi perchè con l'inglese :-)

i asked alberto if 'F1' was for 'first generation', because i'm really ignorant about color genetics :D

I have something on my mind...i'd like to have crele rosecombs and crele dutch bantams...starting with cuckoo rosecombs and gold partridge dutch bantams...if its possible :D
I'm a dreamer!!

Nono, I understand perfectely what you say in Italiano. (just not can respond myself in "understandable" Italiano) I just was a little slow with me respond, you young ragazzi where much more quicker with responding than I could do. But you do perfectly well Alberto and that pleases me very much. Go on like this.

Keep on dreaming Marco, only dreamers come up with beautiful ideas.

ooh ok :) thank you, i'll keep on dreaming eheh :D

StarFish_Ge, 17-11-2009 22:16:

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i asked alberto if 'F1' was for 'first generation', because i'm really ignorant about color genetics :D

I have something on my mind...i'd like to have crele rosecombs and crele dutch bantams...starting with cuckoo rosecombs and gold partridge dutch bantams...if its possible :D
I'm a dreamer!!

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So yes it is possible, as long as you follow the "genetic color rules".
it is easy to do so when you get using the color calculator : kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html he follow the rules and make no mistakes ;-)

I made a working explanation for the color calculator : sites.google.com/site/zijdehoenders/chickencolourcalculator

link to color calculator : kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html

link to versione Italiano : kippenjungle.nl/kruisingIT.html?mgt=Sloc:s+/s+,Iloc:i+/i+,Eloc:e+/e+&fgt=Sloc:s+/-,Iloc:i+/i+,El...

Thank you very much danny :)
I'm starting to understand how the calculator works...and it works really great!

:-) I am glad for that, keep on practicing.